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dan_s
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An interesting take on Trump

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I am not pleased by either candidate for president. Hilary is clearly untrustworthy and "extremely careless" with important information. The Clinton Foundation is a money laundering scam if there ever was one. Mr. Trump is far from "presidential", but I listened carefully to his speech last night on immigration and I found myself agreeing with all of it. I doubt he gets Mexico to pay for the wall, but we can afford it and we certainly need to do something about all of the illegals in this country. IMO Washington is "broken" and this country is clearly on a path to bankruptcy if we don't get this crap fixed. We need leadership. "Leaders" come in many different packages, but it is the results that matter.

Below is an interesting take on Mr. Trump from someone I respect. I like the comparison to Churchill. I do believe that God blesses America. Without America this world will go to hell.

I hope all of you will give a lot of thought to who you vote for on November 8. This is a very important election.

A Christian Pastor’s Analysis of the U.S. Election Drama
By: Dr. James Dobson
Is Trump good for America? I mentioned Sunday that I would speak on this next week. Unfortunately, I found that I was shoehorning this topic into my planned message. To properly present what I want to speak on Sunday, I may have to leave the Donald out of it! But let me take a minute for those that wonder and give some of my thoughts.

When I first heard that Trump (DT) was entering the race last year, I told my wife that perhaps it was a good thing for the party and America. I knew that he was not a "saint," but I thought that he would be like a bull in a china shop. He is a disrupter and I believe America could use a fresh thinker especially in the political arena. I didn't think he would get the nomination, but that he would shake up politics as usual. I was correct on the shaking up!

Lance Wallnau likens him to a biblical Cyrus. Someone who is dynamically used of God even though not perceived by many as a God follower. God has used many people in history that I would probably not like or agree with. I’m not sure I would have liked all the disciples, or David, or Moses. Somehow, God did not seem compelled to consult with me on His choices!

I have always admired Winston Churchill. He is seen as one of the greatest national leaders in the 20th century. Last year, I had the privilege of going through the War Museum in London. Winston is a key feature. His life is controversial. He was not always celebrated as a great leader. He was a bombastic, cigar smoking, at times crude, even misogynistic leader. It is alleged that he told off color stories to his children before bedtime! A woman once told him he was disgustingly drunk. His response was "My dear, you are disgustingly ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly!"

There are many websites that discuss the outlandish comments and activities of this great world leader. But, he had exactly what was needed to stop Hitler at the Channel, to rouse a nation to never give up and to partner with America to find final victory in Europe. You probably wouldn't want him as your pastor, maybe not even your father, but he was the right leader for that moment in England's history. Such a brazen man that would go up to the roof of his quarters in central London and smoke cigars as Hitler’s air force bombed all around him. I’m not sure I would have voted for him.... but he was the right man!

I think it would be awesome to have a righteous leader, one that understood the intricacies of the economy, health care, defense, immigration, with great sensitivity to religious institutions, a heart for the poor, a vision for the future. If that leader was a praying person, formidable in the word of God and loved the local church, I would rejoice! I do not think that is the choice we will have in November.

Instead....we will look for someone who is imperfect, yet will fit the times we are living in. Particularly, that ‘whoever’ we vote for, will be someone who might possibly have the opportunity to appoint up to three Supreme Court justices. That could radically shape our culture in America for the next 30 years. The America of our grandchildren could be very different....and that may not be good. We cannot stand on the sidelines. A non-vote is a passive vote for a direction we may very well regret.

So...is Donald Trump good for America? I honestly believe that he has been already. He has shaken the political system. Do his comments offend me? At times! Do I agree with all he says? Not at all! But could he be a “Cyrus” being raised up by God to preserve America? Nobody liked Gen. Patton, but he sure WAS an instrument of the United States for the right things.

This I know. I will vote for the best chance for America. I will pray for our leaders as I have already. In the end - God will continue to be my source and my hope. I do believe that God has had a hand in America's history. I hope and pray that He will also have a saving hand in America’s future.
Dan Steffens
Energy Prospectus Group
setliff
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hell, if for no other reason--its the supreme court nominees that make my decision. and, i would much rather have a jerk for pres than a lying ass crook!
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Trump like Churchill? you gotta be kidding!
Churchill personified a lifetime of service in the British Army, as a member of parliament and Lord of the Admiralty. He was eloquent, insightful and thought before he spoke.
He was also pugnacious. The only quality in common with Trump.
Give me a break.
dan_s
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Your two choices are a bold face liar who, with her husband runs a money laundering scam or a guy who is definitely not politically correct.

If you think our country is headed in the right direction, then vote for Hillary. By the end of her first term the USA will be $25 Trillion in debt.
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I disagree with much of Trump's positions. I could disagree with all of them, and I still would not vote for Hillary Clinton. I am still pissed off at Ross Perot for getting Clinton elected in the first place. Had he not, the Clinton name would be a forgotten dust mote in history.
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You must admit that the Clintons are quite a story. They have a net worth over $200 million, most of which came through the Clinton Foundation. Sure, others have done the same, but nowhere near the scale of the Clintons.
Frankly, I don't know why Hillary wants the job of President. Focus on her as a candidate is bringing a lot more attention to the Clinton Foundation. I just don't see any upside in the "gig" for her and Bill. Just take the money they've scammed so far and fade into the sunset.
The private e-mail server is just plain stupid (even if not illegal). If anyone in the military had put a single Top Secret document on an unsecured server, they would be in prison for a long time. To me it is the "different rules for the Clintons" that really pisses me off.

I agree that Trump is a difficult second choice, but he is the only alternative to the mess we have in Washington.

Our national debt is probably past the point of no return already, but if it keeps going up by $Trillion year-after-year we will soon need to devalue the currency. That should be a MAJOR CONCERN for all us at or nearing retirement.
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Devaluing currency is a threat, and would cause big inflation. It would hurt pensioners the most, then investors who have money in foreign securities, bonds, and cash. It would probably help energy/gold investors and, at least in the short term, equity investors. Things would have to get much, much worse for that to happen. You will know we are in trouble when the Chinese stop buying our bonds and/or international traders ask to be paid in Euros, Pounds, or Renmibi.
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Question: How can the Fed ever raise interest rates? It will bankrupt the U.S., the world's biggest debtor.
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