Read this carefully: https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2 ... l-laureate
As I have posted here daily. The numbers coming out of China, South Korea, Japan and now Iran are telling us a much different story than all the Gloom & Doom being told by our media.
We aren't going to run out of toilet paper! and millions of people aren't going to die.
and PLEASE don't post that all of the Asian countries are lying to us. There are way too many eyes covering this for that to be possible.
COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
Dan Steffens
Energy Prospectus Group
Energy Prospectus Group
Re: COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
Based on the Johns Hopkins website at 6PM CT on March 23
Below are the number for the top 4 Asian Nations (China, South Korea, Malaysia and Japan), no other Asian nations are in the top 25.
Read the article at the link and you will see why this is extremely important
93,103 Confirmed Cases
76,379 People who have recovered
3,441 Deaths
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13,283 Active Cases < Only 5.146% of the total active cases in world. Over half of the world's population lives in Asia.
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Except for two days, the number of Active Cases in Asia has been on steady decline since February 25 when it peaked at over 50,000.
They obviously have COVID-19 under control. The World Health Organization is monitoring them closely, so we should be able to rely on the numbers.
MOST IMPORTANT: They are reporting hardly any new cases and the number of people who have recovered has accelerated; hence the sharp drop in Active Cases.
The $Trillion Dollar Question: How are they treating patients?
In addition to the sharp drop in Active Cases, I think it is important to note that these all have much higher populations density than the U.S.
You can tell me a thousand times that COVID-19 is super contagious, but if these HIGHLY POPULATED nations can adapt and move on so can we.
Another thing that jumps out of the data is that Italy is a unique situation. Italy has reported 6,077 deaths, which is over 37% of the world total. I've been told that they had a lot of business with Wuhan, China but I don't know how to confirm that. I do know from growing up with lots of Italians in St. Louis, they are very "social" and love heated discussions at close range. When looking at lots of data, you need to focus on things that jump out at you. What's happening in Asia is definitely where we need to be focusing our attention.
Below are the number for the top 4 Asian Nations (China, South Korea, Malaysia and Japan), no other Asian nations are in the top 25.
Read the article at the link and you will see why this is extremely important
93,103 Confirmed Cases
76,379 People who have recovered
3,441 Deaths
----------------
13,283 Active Cases < Only 5.146% of the total active cases in world. Over half of the world's population lives in Asia.
===================
Except for two days, the number of Active Cases in Asia has been on steady decline since February 25 when it peaked at over 50,000.
They obviously have COVID-19 under control. The World Health Organization is monitoring them closely, so we should be able to rely on the numbers.
MOST IMPORTANT: They are reporting hardly any new cases and the number of people who have recovered has accelerated; hence the sharp drop in Active Cases.
The $Trillion Dollar Question: How are they treating patients?
In addition to the sharp drop in Active Cases, I think it is important to note that these all have much higher populations density than the U.S.
You can tell me a thousand times that COVID-19 is super contagious, but if these HIGHLY POPULATED nations can adapt and move on so can we.
Another thing that jumps out of the data is that Italy is a unique situation. Italy has reported 6,077 deaths, which is over 37% of the world total. I've been told that they had a lot of business with Wuhan, China but I don't know how to confirm that. I do know from growing up with lots of Italians in St. Louis, they are very "social" and love heated discussions at close range. When looking at lots of data, you need to focus on things that jump out at you. What's happening in Asia is definitely where we need to be focusing our attention.
Dan Steffens
Energy Prospectus Group
Energy Prospectus Group
Re: COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
Another thing that jumps out of the data is that Italy is a unique situation. Italy has reported 6,077 deaths, which is over 37% of the world total. I've been told that they had a lot of business with Wuhan, China but I don't know how to confirm that.
It has been reported from Italy that the country got a very late start in containment and mitigation efforts (not really any containment). That is likely responsible for its very high case rate (1,057 per million population, which is highest of the world's large countries so far). Contributing factors are discussed below.
Italy's elderly population (many of whom, with advanced age, have multiple co-morbidities that predispose to a poor outcome) being extensive is believed to be responsible for their high death rate.
According to wikipedia, there were over 320,000 Chinese living in Italy, most of them in northern Italy, not counting Chinese persons who became Italian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people_in_Italy Some, apparently were allowed to live there illegally.
Many worked in Italian garment/accessory industry. https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made ... 77237.html
Italy has also been a tourist destination for the Chinese.
This article tells part of the story. Excerpt: "Italy was the first country to offer direct flights from Europe to China 50 years ago and was also the first G-7 country to embrace China's Belt and Road Initiative." It also says 90% of the Chinese in Italy worked in Italian garment industry, with direct flights between Wuhan and Italy facilitating their travel. https://www.rebellionresearch.com/blog/ ... r-or-worse.
Elsewhere, I have read/seen that many Chinese living in Italy traveled to Wuhan in mid-January for the Chinese Lunar New Year celebration and later returned to Italy, some, unfortunately, being unknowing vectors.
Apparently also, some Chinese tourists were found in Italy to be infected, prompting on Jan. 31 the Italian government's imposing a travel ban on flights from China. https://www.straitstimes.com/world/euro ... with-china
Note the article's saying Italian Prime Minister Conte said, on Jan 31, that "The two Chinese tourists have been under observation since Wednesday (Jan 29), Mr Conte said, adding that there is no reason to panic and that the country is well prepared to cope with the emergency."
A prominent Italian virologist blamed political correctness in Italy for contributing to the rapid spread of COVID-19 in Italy. https://www.theblaze.com/news/italy_pol ... oronavirus
See also:
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... romoterPro
Apparently, the Florence mayor on Feb. 4 felt the Italian government's announcement of travel restrictions from China were "racist" and so declared "Hug a Chinese Day." See, in the above linked redstate article, pictures of proud and happy hugs.
As a corollary, Pres. Trump on Jan. 31 ordered travel restrictions from China into the U.S., for which he was roundly criticized by the Chinese ("US inappropriately overreacted") and his domestic critics. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/0 ... vel-110750
On March 10 he announced travel restrictions from Europe, a move European leaders and some media also criticized. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeatin ... 3bdf75481b
The just linked Forbes article claims that Trump's stated rationale was wholly "untrue." The author, quoting EU officials, implies that the reason Italy's China travel ban had not worked somehow applied also to the USA's China travel ban and EU travel ban, both of which were said would be ineffective.
The CDC had, before Jan. 31, documented that an infected person who had traveled from Wuhan had entered the U.S. Also there were at least two reports of COVID-19 infections, one in Houston and a cluster somewhere in the Northeast US, that were seeded by Americans who had vacationed in Italy and returned as vectors before the EU restrictions were announced. These would seem to have justified both US travel restrictions and likely prevented additional seedings in the US.
In retrospect, one must wonder whether, had Italy and the US known earlier about human-to-human COVID-19 transmission and its spread in Wuhan in December and January, travel restrictions might have been imposed sooner, in Italy's case lessening the extent of spread in that country.
It has been reported from Italy that the country got a very late start in containment and mitigation efforts (not really any containment). That is likely responsible for its very high case rate (1,057 per million population, which is highest of the world's large countries so far). Contributing factors are discussed below.
Italy's elderly population (many of whom, with advanced age, have multiple co-morbidities that predispose to a poor outcome) being extensive is believed to be responsible for their high death rate.
According to wikipedia, there were over 320,000 Chinese living in Italy, most of them in northern Italy, not counting Chinese persons who became Italian citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people_in_Italy Some, apparently were allowed to live there illegally.
Many worked in Italian garment/accessory industry. https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/made ... 77237.html
Italy has also been a tourist destination for the Chinese.
This article tells part of the story. Excerpt: "Italy was the first country to offer direct flights from Europe to China 50 years ago and was also the first G-7 country to embrace China's Belt and Road Initiative." It also says 90% of the Chinese in Italy worked in Italian garment industry, with direct flights between Wuhan and Italy facilitating their travel. https://www.rebellionresearch.com/blog/ ... r-or-worse.
Elsewhere, I have read/seen that many Chinese living in Italy traveled to Wuhan in mid-January for the Chinese Lunar New Year celebration and later returned to Italy, some, unfortunately, being unknowing vectors.
Apparently also, some Chinese tourists were found in Italy to be infected, prompting on Jan. 31 the Italian government's imposing a travel ban on flights from China. https://www.straitstimes.com/world/euro ... with-china
Note the article's saying Italian Prime Minister Conte said, on Jan 31, that "The two Chinese tourists have been under observation since Wednesday (Jan 29), Mr Conte said, adding that there is no reason to panic and that the country is well prepared to cope with the emergency."
A prominent Italian virologist blamed political correctness in Italy for contributing to the rapid spread of COVID-19 in Italy. https://www.theblaze.com/news/italy_pol ... oronavirus
See also:
https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/202 ... romoterPro
Apparently, the Florence mayor on Feb. 4 felt the Italian government's announcement of travel restrictions from China were "racist" and so declared "Hug a Chinese Day." See, in the above linked redstate article, pictures of proud and happy hugs.
As a corollary, Pres. Trump on Jan. 31 ordered travel restrictions from China into the U.S., for which he was roundly criticized by the Chinese ("US inappropriately overreacted") and his domestic critics. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/0 ... vel-110750
On March 10 he announced travel restrictions from Europe, a move European leaders and some media also criticized. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeatin ... 3bdf75481b
The just linked Forbes article claims that Trump's stated rationale was wholly "untrue." The author, quoting EU officials, implies that the reason Italy's China travel ban had not worked somehow applied also to the USA's China travel ban and EU travel ban, both of which were said would be ineffective.
The CDC had, before Jan. 31, documented that an infected person who had traveled from Wuhan had entered the U.S. Also there were at least two reports of COVID-19 infections, one in Houston and a cluster somewhere in the Northeast US, that were seeded by Americans who had vacationed in Italy and returned as vectors before the EU restrictions were announced. These would seem to have justified both US travel restrictions and likely prevented additional seedings in the US.
In retrospect, one must wonder whether, had Italy and the US known earlier about human-to-human COVID-19 transmission and its spread in Wuhan in December and January, travel restrictions might have been imposed sooner, in Italy's case lessening the extent of spread in that country.
Re: COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
Thanks. Very helpful in understanding why Italy is well on its way to passing China with the most confirmed cases and it already has the most deaths.
Dan Steffens
Energy Prospectus Group
Energy Prospectus Group
Re: COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
What about Iran & other hotspots for the virus? How many Italian deaths are immigrant Chinese? Clustered, the Chinese in Italian workshops would seem ideal for self-quarantine as in Wuhan. if the Spectator argument is right, then capitalist workshop culture could be implicated.
Demographically, Italy has an aging population and inadequate numbers of ventilators—like the US and UK. Plus tourists and late lockdown.
As posted before (two posts taken down), the Johns Hopkins site is made up only of public sources and undercounts the US statistics, since coronavirus tests are lacking here. Methodologically, skeptics seem to be counting only numbers today, whereas epidemiologists are projecting where the viral casualties are going.
Demographically, Italy has an aging population and inadequate numbers of ventilators—like the US and UK. Plus tourists and late lockdown.
As posted before (two posts taken down), the Johns Hopkins site is made up only of public sources and undercounts the US statistics, since coronavirus tests are lacking here. Methodologically, skeptics seem to be counting only numbers today, whereas epidemiologists are projecting where the viral casualties are going.
Re: COVID-19 Fun Facts - Number really do matter
Based on Johns Hopkins website data, the virus situation in Iran has calmed down. Like the Asian nations, Iran's new Confirmed Cases has slowed and they report that 8,913 people have recovered.
The rate of recoveries has increased in Iran. They have reported 1,934 deaths which is the 4th highest country for deaths.
Since the encouraging results from France on the use of the drug Chloroquine, I've noticed a sharp increase in people who have in several countries. Iran is one of them.
As I posted earlier, the USA and several European countries seem to be way behind in reporting people that have recovered. My take is that in the early stages of confusion, they are not following up on the mild cases. I'm sure there are different measures of "recovered".
The rate of recoveries has increased in Iran. They have reported 1,934 deaths which is the 4th highest country for deaths.
Since the encouraging results from France on the use of the drug Chloroquine, I've noticed a sharp increase in people who have in several countries. Iran is one of them.
As I posted earlier, the USA and several European countries seem to be way behind in reporting people that have recovered. My take is that in the early stages of confusion, they are not following up on the mild cases. I'm sure there are different measures of "recovered".
Dan Steffens
Energy Prospectus Group
Energy Prospectus Group