Attention those in CA and NY

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dan_s
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Attention those in CA and NY

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If you live in California or New York you should read this.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texa ... Production

The economy of Texas is BOOMING. The reason is that this state supports the energy industry.

California has HUGE oil and gas reserves. New York has some extremely good Marcellus Shale acreage, but they won't allow fracing. New York need to take a hard look at what is happening in PA.
Dan Steffens
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mkarpoff
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We, who are enlightened, who live in NY are constantly frustrated by the environmental lobby among other things. Just this week NY's top court ruled that towns can make their own decisions whether or not to allow fracking. The case was brought by an E&P company, which lost. Of course, even if the company won, NY still wouldn't allow it until fracking studies are "completed.' They now have been studying the studies for years, and our lefty governor will continue studying them until we learn how to turn lead into gold.
I saw a recent picture taken at night. On the Pa side it was all lit up with activity. On the NY side, nothing. It reminded me of pictures I have seen of N and S Korea; same thing. What is called the Northern Tier of NY, where the fracking would take place, has the highest unemployment in a state with particularly high unemployment. Problem is those folks don't vote for Cuomo so he doesn't give a damn if they can't get jobs. Just pathetic.
dan_s
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It is sad for the people of NY. There are serious concerns about fracing, but IMO way over-blown by the environmental wackos. Believe me, the oil & gas companies are very diligent about making sure ground water is protected and the last thing they want is a well that leaks. Fracing has been around for decades and our water is fine in Texas.
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bearcatbob

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dan_s wrote:It is sad for the people of NY. There are serious concerns about fracing, but IMO way over-blown by the environmental wackos. Believe me, the oil & gas companies are very diligent about making sure ground water is protected and the last thing they want is a well that leaks. Fracing has been around for decades and our water is fine in Texas.
One of the key points I try to make when I discuss this issue with skeptics/opponents (I do try to stay a bit civil if the person is sincere in discussing the issue) is that there is absolutely NO HUMAN ACTIVITY that does not involve some form of risk. Heck, simply getting out of bed in the morning initiates the risk exposure activities of the day. If a no risk requirement is what the world of the loony left wants - then there will be nothing done that accomplishes anything. The whole state of economic discourse in our nation has devolved into political sound bites meant to appease some fringe element.

On my gmail account I have added the trailer "The golden goose needs to be nourished, not served for dinner." Far too many politicians in power want to serve the golden goose that has made America great for dinner. How we distribute the eggs from the golden goose is a separate discussion - a discussion that first requires that the golden goose lays the golden eggs.
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Fraccing is neither good nor bad... it all depends on the geology and on the responsibility and skill of those who do it.
There are locations where it should be done, and others, where not.
And whackos agitate on both sides, not only on the "green" one.
What is needed is a balanced discussion based on current knowledge and responsible risk management.
bearcatbob

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Laurin_DE wrote:Fraccing is neither good nor bad... it all depends on the geology and on the responsibility and skill of those who do it.
There are locations where it should be done, and others, where not.
And whackos agitate on both sides, not only on the "green" one.
What is needed is a balanced discussion based on current knowledge and responsible risk management.
I read your post and it reminds me of two experiences I have had with lawyers who are at best fracking skeptics. In my communication with them I spelled it just like you. Both of them independently took great pride in telling me I spelled the word wrong and that the proper spelling was fracking - not fraccing. I note each of them took great pride in their self supposed intellectual superiority over the dumb hick rube engineer who was on the opposite side of their position.

Their arrogance was striking in its odorous form.

Ergo - be careful how you spell it. Those who think they are better than we mere mortals will use it to belittle you - and absolutely avoid the facts of the issue.

Bob
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Laurin_DE
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I always have the (lame) excuse of not being a native speaker AND being a European - heck, what do WE know?... :-)
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